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flyinalong

USA
47 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2010 :  7:23:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What dewormer do you guys use for whipworms? I used Safegaurd, but am wondering if there is anything more cost effective out there. Thanks for any input.

dgsoles

USA
375 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2010 :  06:34:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just had one of mine get it, he was suddenly getting bloody stool after runs, and very loose stool in general. I just got the prescription from the vet for a three day treatment. $25, but he's fine now.

Doug

Doug Soles

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dr tim

USA
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  08:47:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit dr tim's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Whips are a real tough one to eliminate and the key is to deworm again 80-90 days after the first deworming to stop the cycle in the dog. If they keep getting reexposed from the ground in the kennel(which is very common) you need to keep a deworming program going for whipworms every 3 months indefinitely. I would dewrom all dogs athat are 12 weeks and older in a kennel for whipworms if they are found in a kennel.

Tim Hunt
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Linda Lange

USA
737 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2010 :  2:17:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit Linda Lange's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for chiming in, Dr. Tim...I was hoping someone would point out that whips is a serious thing and needs more action than say, roundworms.

LML

http://www.michigandogdrivers.org
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Black Hole

USA
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  2:59:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit Black Hole's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ivermectin is more cost effective.
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JC

USA
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Posted - 02/06/2010 :  09:36:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit JC's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It is my understanding that Ivermectin doesn't take care of whips?? That is what I thought anyways.
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Black Hole

USA
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Posted - 02/06/2010 :  12:38:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit Black Hole's Homepage  Reply with Quote
JC, you are incorrect. Check the sticky notes under "Health: General" in this forum, and you will find some real detailed info by Dr Jerry Vanek. About Ivermectin, he says "Ascarids and whips need a dose of around 200 ug/kg". He also confirms the 2.5 to 3 month life cycle that Dr Tim mentions and he recommends another deworming at two months and again at three months.

Click on "Health: General" (at the top of this page) and you will see several messages that have been marked as sticky notes to keep them always at the top. I highly recommend reading and rereading them periodically.
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flyinalong

USA
47 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  7:28:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info. I also heard Ivermectin was not effective for whips. I learned something new today! Ivermectin is allot more cost effective. Thank you.

Anyone know of anything that will kill whip eggs on the ground? I read they can live for a long time in the soil. Of all the pests to have-whips! I keep my kennel very clean, not sure where we picked them up at. But...we will keep at it. Have a great day!
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RSmith

USA
3105 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2010 :  6:11:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit RSmith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I use 99% fenbendazole and 1% Ivermectin every month year round.
Large kennels or dogs that have been traveling around,etc. youll NEVER rid everything out of your yard. You can control most species of GI parasites but NEVER kill them off completely.

Fenbendazole labled for Fish use is MUCH less expensive. I just payed $140 for a Kilogram of 99% Pure fenbendazole.


Roy Smith
Adirondack Kennel
Skandinavian Hounds/Stagsters
http://www.adirondack-kennel.com

Edited by - RSmith on 02/11/2010 6:12:18 PM
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flyinalong

USA
47 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2010 :  6:40:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info. Where do you get the Fenbendazole for fish? What is the dosage? Always something new to learn. thanks guys.
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pcurtice

USA
454 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2010 :  10:02:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am not postively sure I guess. But, I always thought that ivermectin was not effective against whips and is effective on round and hook, more so on round. I would resort to Fenbendazole for sure for whips. Guess I have to go back and review Dr. Vanek's comments....interesting.

Peter C. Curtice II
Ridgerunner Kennel
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RSmith

USA
3105 Posts

Posted - 02/16/2010 :  12:34:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit RSmith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.fishchemical.com/Products-FENBENDAZOLE-1-Kilo-22943.Item.html

Dose is always going to be the same, published info for dogs is 50mg/Kg.


Roy Smith
Adirondack Kennel
Skandinavian Hounds/Stagsters
http://www.adirondack-kennel.com
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Jeremy Gudgeon

USA
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  2:56:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jeremy Gudgeon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Any chance you could explain exactly how the fish fenbendazole is packaged (powder, pills, etc.),and how you actually dose your dogs with it?

http://www.ravenwoodkennel.blogspot.com/
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RSmith

USA
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Posted - 03/02/2010 :  09:02:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit RSmith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Powder form and since its close to 100%, it's easy I weigh it on a small gram scale and figure out how much is in a teaspoon,etc. I put into food. I think is 1/2 teaspoon for 50# don't quote me though.
100% contains 1000mg/g Fenbendazole.

Dose is always the same at 50mg/kg no matter WHAT form or percent you use.

Roy Smith
Adirondack Kennel
Skandinavian Hounds/Stagsters
http://www.adirondack-kennel.com

Edited by - RSmith on 03/02/2010 09:05:11 AM
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sallydawson

USA
830 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2012 :  3:57:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Roy - just checked out your link for FENBENDANZOLE. Just how much are you getting for your $175.00? Got one dog for sure with whipworm, so probably his kennel mate as whip as well. Panacur from vet is $45.00 per dog! Yikes!

I do NOT have a de-worming program, as this is the first I have known of any kind of infestation. But if I need to start a regular program for all 9 dogs, I am going to be looking at $$.

Am also going to check into a regular regime of food grade Diatamaceous Earth.

Sally

Sally J. Dawson and the Mushing'dales
N1BCF; "RED HAT" Musher
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Abenakimals

USA
194 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2012 :  4:18:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit Abenakimals's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm not exactly convinced that the dose of 99/100% fenbendazole is the same as what the published dosage says. When it says 50mg/kg I believe it applies to the standard 22.7% panacur/febendazole. Right??? Dr. Tim???

Regina Caldwell
Abenaki Malamutes
http://abenakimalamutes.weebly.com
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