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| OlympianBulldogs |
Posted - 12/26/2004 : 02:28:56 AM
Has anyone aver heard of anyone having a good pitbull dog sled team?? I was just wondering I got a dog sled that i have 2 pitbulls and 2 American bulldogs and a Doberman for a lead dog and they seem to do pretty good longest i ve ever been out with them is 10 miles I was just interested in getting in =volved with competitive racing and dont konow if its jsut a crazy idea so ..
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| THZSteele |
Posted - 01/24/2005 : 10:11:35 AM
yeah my mal Caillou (KI-YEW) has beaten a few pits at weight pulls...Alwaysdoing better the colder it is...
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| Jen |
Posted - 01/24/2005 : 08:47:55 AM
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Jen who did you get your mals from...or do you breed your own...what lines are they out of...the mals out here tend to be BIG (120lbs+)...mine are a bit smaller 60-90lbs...I see in your bio you sled and weight pull with mals as well as well...
Mine are Storm Kloud dogs, I have one SnoRidge which goes back to SK and ToteUm. Most of the dogs here are under 100. My website is www.geocities.com/kita_houdini
I am breeding very soon. We just love the weight pulling, my smallest female has gained a lot of respect because she's beating the pit bulls and when she has to compete in a class with the bigger dogs she does well against them too.
Another weight pull site is www.doggpower.com , they list a lot of information, including the national rankings.
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| RogueAPBT |
Posted - 01/18/2005 : 7:19:11 PM
Hopping in a little late here.. I'm not a racer, so I can't say on whether it's legal or not..I think it would depend on which race/where you want to run, and you'd just have to check with local clubs. I'm guessing, though, if folks are allowed to run GSPs and Goldens and Standard Poodles, they probably don't discriminate by breed.
As far as being competitive with a team like that, it would depend who you're running against, and how your dogs are built, since they're not all short, heavily muscled dogs like most folks think.
I have run APBTs with a scooter for a couple of years now. I just do it to wear the goons out and to get out and have fun. If you like it, and the dogs like it, I say go for it, have fun. :)
Cheryl
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| Woofy |
Posted - 01/12/2005 : 7:57:38 PM
Well, my pit x is okay. When he decides to pull, anyway. I think they'd be fine, but I don't really know much 'bout them. THe cold, and maybe other dogs might bother them, though, and if they got in a fight, I'm sure you'd get a load of trouble about it. It all depends on your particular dogs. I love Pit bulls, my experience is that they're generally pretty sweet (with humans in particular), and same with Dobermans. Personally, I worry more about my McNab (a kind of border collie thing), than with my pit bull/australian cattle dog/maybe a little beagle mix. The McNab can be REAL nasty. But again, it all depends on your dogs.
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| THZSteele |
Posted - 01/12/2005 : 10:42:18 AM
Jen who did you get your mals from...or do you breed your own...what lines are they out of...the mals out here tend to be BIG (120lbs+)...mine are a bit smaller 60-90lbs...I see in your bio you sled and weight pull with mals as well as well...
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| THZSteele |
Posted - 01/12/2005 : 10:33:15 AM
there are alot of weight pull clubs out there...we do IWPA http://www.iwpa.net/ ...used to be (even just a few years back) that the Mals and saints used to steal the show...pits and bull dogs reign supreme now I've seen a 120 lb pit pull over 4900lbs...in IWPA the most weight pulled 16feet in 60 secs or less wins...my dog's (a mal) best pull is about 2300lbs in the 60-80 pound class...another mal did pretty good in weight pulls before I bought her...I think her top pull is over 3500lbs...I have also heard of Pit/Bull dogs pulling over 10000lbs on a rail system...http://pulldoggies.com also has lots of weight pull info...
How are weight pulls run up in Alaska? I know from pics i have seen it looks like you can basically stand right in front of your dog while calling him (as opposed to IWPA rules where you stand 16 feet away or drive the from behind....I'd love to try to compete up there with our dogs...
As far as pits doing sledding...I've heard that they are to muscle bound and run a higher risk of injury...that's what I've been told from pit breeders I've seen at weight pulls...
Edited by - THZSteele on 01/12/2005 10:33:48 AM
Edited by - THZSteele on 01/12/2005 10:36:24 AM |
| Jen |
Posted - 01/12/2005 : 09:27:27 AM
From a racing standpoint, you can certainly try. Crazy idea? Maybe, but a lot of ideas seem crazy at first. From a conformation standpoint, pits and ABs are built more as freight animals and are not likely to be fast as the sibes and alaskans. You'll have a lot of power there but will probably be lacking in speed. Keeping them warm might be a problem, but if they're already outdoor dogs you should be ok. A lot of outdoor dogs will develop a double coat out of necessity, though it won't be as thick as that of a northern dog. People run pointers and hounds, remember. You can always try.
Weight pull question: I'm not sure how you'd measure a world record with the different carts and courses and rules. There is no single winner of a weight pullm there are different categories. The dogs pull in weight classes and the dogs within that class compete--the dog who pulls the most weight in the quickest time is usually the class winner. Often they award top weight pulled and top % (which is actually a 'times bodyweight' prize) as well as top weight pulled favors the bigger dogs and top % favors the little dogs. My club does it a little different, the dog who pulls the most weight the furthest is the winner as it's a weight pull, not a weight race. The pit bull people do weight classes and the dog who pulls the most times its body weight is the winner within the class.
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| swesche |
Posted - 12/26/2004 : 4:30:31 PM
I know there are a few that run pitts but only seen 2 at a time, never seen or heard of a tram....yet.
I have a standard poodle x that has been my toughest trapline dog and is reaching 10 years next month, he helps with training our young dogs.
sarah
http://sarahwesche.tripod.com
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| Jake Robinson |
Posted - 12/26/2004 : 3:38:14 PM
It wouldn't surprise me Theo. I *think* they judge most weight pull competitions by body weight. Correct me if I am wrong. If there is a 50 pound dog and it pulls 5 times its own body weight and if a 120 pound dog and it pulls 4 times its own body weight the 50 punder would win even though the bigger dog was pulling more.
Do it by dog,
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| Theo |
Posted - 12/26/2004 : 11:45:05 AM
Doesn't an American Bulldog hold the weightpull record? Anyone know?
You could probably haul lots of weight with that team!
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| newsledgal |
Posted - 12/26/2004 : 10:53:59 AM
BTW, I think its great that you realise your particular breeds need the exersize and are doing something about it! A good dog is a tired dog I allways say!
Remind me to stay off your sled trail when your team is comming!LOL
Now is the time to actually get some Huskies so you can really get into the sport!
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| newsledgal |
Posted - 12/26/2004 : 10:48:04 AM
Any dog can pull a sled.I am currently trying to skijor with my standard poodle to eventually add him to my 4 dog rec. team.im not a expert,but I know any single coated dog would be difficult to race in any extreame temps.
I know that poodles were once comp. racing,but they lack a double coat,and well Poodles can be a bit dog aggressive. I know you will get allot of insight and input with regards to your team...but honestly I dont think allot of mushers will be thrilled to race against a doberman and pittbull team! The chances of fights and disater are just too high!
Some dogs are best left out of the sport of competitive mushing..and I believe there is restrictions in this reagrds......
Enlighten us oh great dog sled folks!
If i ever race my team of Alaskians,Ill be sure to leave the Standard Poodle out!
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